Xm V Delavnici

Začel/a gigo, Februar 01, 2007, 08:57:46 POPOLDNE

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Srauf

Gigo
?e ?e nisi našel cevi za vodo za tvojo bežTIO mislim, da bi bila ta prava ta
http://cgi.ebay.de/Citroen-XM-Y3-V6-Wasserschlauch-Option-versandfrei_W0QQitemZ230190628782QQihZ013QQcategoryZ61529QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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pa se zdilaj kar se da ugodno
LP
?rauf

gigo

Hvala Srauf ampak je nova cev ?e nekaj časa nazaj priromala v garažo. Problem je samo si vzet čas za monta?o. Bova z Vojkotom stvar demolirala in dokumentirala pa bom potem vse objavil tule gor.
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Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.   Christopher Hitchens

mirchi

Xm dela!        
Ni mi ?lo v glavo,dabi naenkrat crkna oba senzorja pa sem vrtal in vrtal,našel elektro shemo in evo,?mentani rele je zatajik.Malo preklinjanja,iskanje releja,čiščenje kontaktov pa stvar dela.
JUHU.
?e centralno zaklepanje pa bo spet b.p
Rezervni deli XM ugodno naprodaj!

gigo

No vidiš, da se da marsikaj narediti sam. Blo bi super, da si stvar dokumentiral in objavil tule gor, da bi stem ?e komu pomagal pri istem problemu.
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Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.   Christopher Hitchens

mirchi

Moram se pohvalit da znam marsikaj popravit sam sploh kar se tiče prve serije XM-a.je pa velika razlika med serijo ena in dva, ne paše skoraj nič,ne releji,ne krmilje ABS ne centralna enota.stari tip raztrgam in popravin v trenutku,sploh dizla(ja vem hvalim se)tega pa spoznavam in stvari je lotevam s strahospoštovanjem.raje trikrat vprašam kot enkrat kaj uničim.bi bil predrag ?port.glede dokumentiranja je pa spet težava.Ker sem doma malcebolj ma podešelju lahko zaradi slabih telefonskih povezav samo sanjam o kaki dobri internetni povezavi zato se javljam iz sluzbe(šef ne sme vedet)kjer pa tudi ne morem bvsk dan pregledat kaj se dogaja kakor tudi ne morem nič down ali up loadat.
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Rezervni deli XM ugodno naprodaj!

deyo

@Gigo, a je bežtija ?e v pogonu. Ste zamenjali cevi?

Primoz

Citat od: gigo;4220A je ?e kdo slučajno to preizkusu?! Pred časom nazaj mi je toni ta problem ?e omenjal zdej
sm pa ta externi regulator našel na e-bayu.


Pravi pa tako:
The majority of XM's (even low mileage and well maintained ones)
 have lost the "magic carpet ride" they were designed to have.
Owners are enduring sub-standard & harsh ride quality (for an XM)
 that's little better than a "normal" car.
Even after replacing spheres - the improvement is only marginal.
So called "comfort spheres" are available - supposedly in an attempt
 to counteract this problem (didn't Citroen intend theirs to be
comfortable then)?
Many garages - including Citroen dealers - won't even diagnose the
problem.
Many XM owners have never experienced the level of comfort their
 car was designed to provide.
So what's going on? Here's the full story - and the solution..

When Citroen introduced Hydractive II suspension to the XM in
 February 1993 (left hand drive models from RP No. 5929 onwards
& right hand drive models from RP No. 6383 onwards) the two centre
 spheres were operated by individual electro-mechanical firmness
 regulators. These regulators switch the centre spheres in or out
 of the hydraulic suspension circuit to make it softer or firmer. The
 suspension ECU (computer brain) monitors a variety of sensors
(acceleration, body movement, steering etc) to detect the way
 the car is being driven and independently operates the firmness
 regulators to make the suspension firmer - and the car handle
better / more safely - when necessary, and for the rest of the
time to make the suspension softer - making your journey as smooth
 and comfortable as possible - the legendary "magic carpet ride".
You can also select "sport" suspension using the slider switch on
 the centre console. Contrary to popular belief this does not set
 the car permanantly in firm more - cutting the centre spheres
out of the hydraulic circuit all the time - but means the suspension
 ECU will activate the firmness regulators more readily (in anticipation
 of you making greater demands of the car).

So - what goes wrong? It's really quite simple. In each of the
electro-mechanical firmness regulators there's a component that's
 designed to protect the electronics in the suspension ECU. These
 components fail - and when they do the suspension ECU detects
the failure and to protect itself shuts down the circuitry that controls
 the electro-magnetic firmness regulator. When this happens the
firmness regulator - by default - remains permenantly in firm mode.
This can happen to front or rear firmness regulators - or both. In this
 state the ride is much harder than when you select "sport suspension"
 because the regulator is never able to operate in soft mode and it's
centre sphere isn't switched into the hydraulic circuit at any time.

So what does this kit do and how does it help? Quite simply - this
kit replaces the components that commonly fail for both firmness
regulators. Just as it detected the failed components - the suspension
 ECU will recognise that the components are working and will immediately
 activate the circuitry that controls the electro-magnetic firmness
regulators - allowing full suspension function! The failed components
 in the firmness regulators are encapsulated in the body of the unit
 and can't be replaced so this kit replaces them elsewhere in the circuit,
 this time closer to the suspension ECU. This means they're just as
 effective at protecting the suspension ECU and the kit connects easily
 to the wiring loom where access and identification is straight forward.
 See pictures below. The kit has only three wires and comes with clear
 instructions specific to your car. All you need to provide is the vehicle
4 digit RP No. that's painted on the near side front door pillar. There's
no need to cut the wiring loom and there's no soldering involved
 because the connections are made using Scotchloks that tap into
the existing wiring. All you need is a pair of pliers to close the Scotchloks.
 All work is carried out under the bonnet simply by opening the lid on
 the ECU container above the off side front wheel. (You may need to
 remove and replace the first few inches of insulating tape from
 around the loom as in the picture below.)

This kit is available for all XM models from RP 5929 onwards (LHD)
 & RP 6383 onwards (RHD). Just provide LHD/RHD and your RP No.

What else should I know? I think you'll be astonished at the results
 you get from fitting one of these kits. It's probably the biggest
 difference you can make to your XM relative to the cost & time
 involved! If the component in only one (front or rear) firmness
regulator has failed you can still fit this kit because having more
than one functioning component in the circuit is perfectly OK. It's
 actually a good idea to fit a kit even if neither have failed -
because this will prevent the problem from ever arising. The
 replacement components I use are "heavier duty" than the
originals and so are not going to fail again. If you prefer I can
supply the kit using original components. The kit is designed to
 do a specific job - but it's not going to compensate for spheres
 that need replaced / re-pressurised for example! (Front spheres
 should be done every 3 years and rear ones every 4 years.
There are 3 on the front plus 1 accumulator & 3 on the rear
plus on later models an anti-sink sphere at the rear. The hydraulic
 system should be flushed and LHM renewed every 5 years.) If
your car has suffered from this fault over a long period - it's
 possible, despite the sophisticated protection circuitry, that
 ECU control components will have overheated and failed. If
this is the case you may not benefit from this fix until those
 components are replaced. In such circumstances however
- fitting this kit is a useful and cost effective aid to diagnosing
 ECU control component failure. If your ECU components have
 failed I can offer a professional repair using original components
 and can assist with a replacement ECU (depending on model) to
 keep your car on the road. There's obviously an additional charge
for ECU repairs. [Terminology used - i.e. n/s/f - relates to right
 hand drive.]

Please contact me if you need any further information.

XANTIA VSX & EXCLUSIVE HYDRACTIVE II SUSPENSION FIX KIT
 - COMING SOON!!

Suspension ECU is inside the container above the o/s/f wheel

Connects to loom that feeds the white 15-pin ECU socket
(front right) ..

Scotchlock connectors to tap into existing loom ..
(view from above - white 15-pin socket now on left)

Job complete in around 15 minutes..

Correct wiring for your car - provide LHD/RHD & RP No..

RP number located on n/s/f door pillar.

Your Satisfaction
   

I hope you'll be really pleased with your purchase. If you're not
 - or if any problems arise - please get in touch with me straight
 away and I'll do everything I can to put things right for you quickly.
If you're not 100% satisfied with this purchase simply

Tu pa je link na e-bayu:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-XM-SPHERES-HYDRACTIVE-II-SUSPENSION
-REPAIR-KIT_W0QQitemZ190099672845QQcategoryZ10376QQrdZ1QQcmdZ
ViewItem

Jaz sem nabavil to zadevo in sem se mantral vec kot garantiranih 15 minut.

Ce je razlika, ja je in to obcutna (pod pogojem, da so diode res fuc). Z letnimi gumami je bilo kot povsem drug avto, po montaži zimskih pa sem preveril, ce naprava se deluje;)

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gigo

Citat od: deyo;24294@Gigo, a je bežtija ?e v pogonu. Ste zamenjali cevi?

bežtja cel čas brni. Samo z Vojkotom nisva dokončala stvari. Ko bo on finičiral svojega Daka bomo vse monade na bežtji porihtali.
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Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.   Christopher Hitchens

gigo

Citat od: Primoz;24318Jaz sem nabavil to zadevo in sem se mantral vec kot garantiranih 15 minut.

Ce je razlika, ja je in to obcutna (pod pogojem, da so diode res fuc). Z letnimi gumami je bilo kot povsem drug avto, po montaži zimskih pa sem preveril, ce naprava se deluje;)

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Pozdravljen.

Kaj si stvar morda kaj dokumentiral? O kakšnih diodah je govorač načeloma ogromno razliko narediš, ?e ?e samo filtre v LHM rezervarju očisti?.
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Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.   Christopher Hitchens

Primoz

Citat od: gigo;24320Pozdravljen.

Kaj si stvar morda kaj dokumentiral stvar? O kakšnih diodah je govorač načeloma ogromno razliko narediš, ?e ?e samo filtre v LHM rezervarju očisti?.


Tu ni kaj dokumentirat. Edina jeba je najt ?ice z oznakami, na katere moraš priklopit to zadevo. Jaz sem odvil malo ve? kot 10 cm izolir traka, ker so oznake na ?icah neenakomerno postavljene.

H1 in H2 je kot dan in no?. čiščenje filtra ali menjava LHM-a ali pa čisti?no sredstvo to ni to. Diode so na elektroventilih, ki odpirajo hidraktivo kuglo. ?e so diode fu?, potem ni pretoka in je avto trd bolj, kot v ?port poziciji. Federirajo samo kugle, ki so pri kolesih, ampak ker je elektroventil zaprt, je to federiranje zeloo omejeno. Pa lahko vsak dan menja? LHM, pa ne bodo diode zaradi tega delovale.

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LuCit

Pozdravljeni!

Spet imam problem na mojem XM-u, najprej mi ni delal daljinec nato pa ?e centralno zaklpanje, tako da prosim ?e ima kdo shemo vezave centralnega zaklepanja naj jo poskenira.

Srauf

LuCit
tudi jaz sem imel probelm z daljicem pa sem kupil nov daljinc in sprejemnik vezal sem ga vsporedno z starim daljincem. Ker je moj XM letnik 93 in prej ni imel pozdrav preko žmigavcev sem mu tudi to dodal in razmišljam tudi o tem, da mi bo zapiral stekla
Za vsa vprašanja sem ti na voljo

LP

?rauf

Srauf

Pozdrav
Ponovno potrebujem vašo pomoč, BC mi javi ABS out of use, kar pomeni, ko poizkusi? stopit na zavoro, da ne dela ABS to mi je clear.
Ampak pri meni je tako, da ko avto prižgem mi javi to, avto ugasnem in ponovno prižgem tega sporočila ni ve? in ABS normalon dela.
Ali je tukaj kakšen rele, ki ne reagira kot bi moral ali pa je kaj drugega mislim, da to za vas ne bo pretrd oreh.

Hvala
LP
?rauf

mirchi

Zdravo!
eno stran nazaj sem opisal težave.Rele je na levem kraku zraven akumulatorja med zračnim filtrom in vezno steno.Verjetno ATE ima pet konektorjev in zeleno ohišje.?e ni to zmeri upornost senzorjev-1080 ohmov.
Rezervni deli XM ugodno naprodaj!

Srauf

Pozdrav
bom preveril in povedal.
Hvala

LP

?rauf