Moj 23 avto - C6 2.7 hdi

[Xandrej]

Evo pdf format...

če to kdo zna naret pri nas sem jaz picikl!

Pa to orodje neko dvojno.

[StefZ]

Evo pdf format...

če to kdo zna naret pri nas sem jaz picikl!

Pa to orodje neko dvojno.

Se strinjam.
Moje vprašanje kar se tega tiče: kako se lahko višinina "poruši", če je prednastavljena v računalniku?

[Xandrej]

ne vem ampak gledam po tujih forumih pa so imeli iste težave nekdo 1.5 cm prenizkega, nekdo 3 previsokega pa teke scene. Ali pa je kdaj kaki višinski senzor zajebal kaj ali pa ga je kdo menjal pa potem se nezna nazaj postavit ali kaj vem...

Aja pa še dvigalo z 4 rokami rabiš pišejo!

He he... to še bo humoreska.

Kak pa to sem ugotovil oz kdaj sem dal bolj pozornost. Ko pride do kake luknje rec čustim, da se sprednji amportizer čisto raztegne... To ni prav... po moje. zdaj grem glih na resvis kaj bo javil . lučka nobena ne sveti...

Bomo vidli... čez 2 uri sporočim!

[frodo1]

Verjetno so pri Citroenu F že znali, pri nas pa ni nekega upanja, ali pač,...

[Xandrej]

Evo mene nazaj...

Huh težka bo... Morali bi iti z računalom pa z temi zadevami sosedom h kolmaniču pa tam to delat.

če so že delali? Ne... Orodje bi naj imali saj bi ga naj vsi imeli kateri so C6 prodajali.

ne vem...

Na diagnostiki je pokazal vse OK...

Bom še malo vrtal bomo vidli...

Lugr malo fprašaj še ti če se ti bo dalo ali pa Modeljt vprašaj v službi če to znajo pa če so delali bi prišel tudi tja np... Ker me muči ali pa se mi samo zdi ampak da bom mirno spal...

[Xandrej]

Evo en majster je to delal sam!

Lads,

I finally sorted out the failed programming of front right hand height sensor but it took about a day plus a lot of head scratching and trial and error. However, what I found I think will be of interest to those of you who try this out as just following the step by step instrucions in Lexia may not be enough. You may need to do some corrective maths.

First follow the measurement instructions in the mainenance instruction (available in C6 owners). Effectively, you measure each actual wheel radius (including tyre) Rx and the height of the respective vehicle measuring points, HxM on the front and rear subframes. The target is to get the each wheel height KxM = Rx-HxM to be 160+/-6mm for the front and 111+/-6mm for the rear. So for example my front LH wheel radius R1 is 310 mm, so to get K1M = 160 mm I needed to measure H1M = 150mm. The rear RH wheel radius R4 is 320mm, so to get K4M = 111mm I needed to measure H4M = 209 mm.

When I changed the wishbones, the maintenance instruction advised to reprogramme the vehicle heights. So I hooked up Lexia. To set vehicle height you go -> DIAGNOSIS -> GLOBAL TEST -> VARIABLE DAMPING -> SPECIFIC AFTER SALES OPERATIONS. Basically the procedure is that it asks you to enter each of your Rx and assocated Hx measurements as you find them. This I did and the actual measurements were: R1 (front LH) = 310mm / H1M =124mm, R2 (Front RH) = 310mm / H2M = 126mm, R3 (rear LH) = 318mm / H3M = 207mm and R4 (rear RH) =320mm and H4M = 210mm. So , the rear was in spec. but the front was nominally 25mm too low. So I thought that, once programmed, the car would know where actually it was and then with its sensors make the calculation and correct the car height. No!

It continually threw up "programming failed" and said check sensors, wiring etc. By going VARIABLE DAMPING -> PARAMETER MEASUREMENTS -> STANDARD PARAMETERS - > PROGRAMMING STATUSES it displayed that front RH sensor programming was INCORRECT. Countless repeat inputs failed. I decided to replace the RH sensor. In the interim the car's front suspension became stiffer - I think this is a default mode in the case of an incorrectly programmed or defective sensor.

I replaced the RH sensor but effectively no change. The breakthrough was going VARIABLE DAMPING -> PARAMETER MEASUREMENTS - > STANDARD PARAMETER MEASUREMENTS -> HEIGHT CORRECTIONS. I show the screen as it shows with everything sorted: (slika spodaj)


However, for front right hand movement, the figure was showing about - 20mm. This means that the system was saying that the front right hand was 20mm higher than the reference height. But if anything, it was 20mm lower. I decided to correct for this by adding 20mm to my H2M reading making it 146mm. Repeated the progamming and voila - "programming done." I took the car for a spin and the suspension was lovely again. However, the front was still 20mm lower. So cheekily I decided to tell the car that it was 20mm lower than it actually was. So H1M became 104mm and H2M became 106mm. Programme again - programming done and voila - cars raises 20mm.

So I fine tuned again and this brings me to what I find is what you need to do:

Measure your wheel radii R1 - R4.

Measure your heights H1M - H4M.

Work out the K1M - K4M. If a KxM is greater than the spec. subtract the difference fom your HxM. If a KxM is less than the spec. add the difference to your HxM.

Look at the screen above.

Check the movement for each sensor. If the value is positive it is saying that that the height is below the reference height by that amount. So subtract that height also from the relevant HxM. If the value is negative it is saying that the height is above the reference height by that amount. So add that height also to the relevant HxM.

Programme again.

It will ask you to reenter the figures after getting you to force height correction at each end of the car by pressing down in turn. For these figures, enter the actual values for HxM you measure again at this point.

So at the finish I ended up with K1M = 160mm, K2M = 162mm, K3M = 106mm and K4M = 106mm.

Took the car for a spin and suspension lovely.

Notice too that in the screenshot all the widely -ve and +ve height corrections have disappeared.

I hope this is of help and I needed to write it down before I forgot what I had done. At one point I feared I had a faulty suspension ECU.

Finally, anyone in need of a second hand RH front height sensor?

Regards,

Phil C.


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[lugr78]

Torej rabimo samo Lexio. Sej ni tako težko.
Ima kdo lexio in malo časa. Bi rad pogledal kaj imam pod to stranjo ki je v zadnjem postu od Andreja in potem nastavil.
Se lotimo?

[Xandrej]

Jaz že tudi zbiram bando skup tu v MB... Saj načeloma na rabiš dvigala samo meriš se pač po avto vležeš...

me matra naj bo kot mora bit. Sucer sem pokolovski ampak qurc če se da naj bo!

[lugr78]

no pod avto se nebi ulegel, kakšen kanal je bolj primeren da se avto ne more "podret" na tebe...

Kdaj pa bi se lotili?

[Xandrej]

No pa saj mora laufat avto pa bom se že vlegel, da ga zmerim... ne vem bomo vidli kako pa kaj ko bo majster z lexijo imel čas.

[lugr78]

pol pa sporoči kdaj...

[frodo1]

To dečki, tak se to dela, enkrat treba probat, :BigThumbs:

[StefZ]

To dečki, tak se to dela, enkrat treba probat, :BigThumbs:

Se strinjam. Pohvale za zagnanost... Rezultate pa čim prej objavit :BigThumbs:

[Dr. MadMan]

Imam popolnoma delujočo lexio (diagbox) tako da se lahko dobimo en vikend (mini C6 srečanje) pa gremo štelat.

[lugr78]

samo povej kje in kdaj, jaz sem za:BigThumbs: