DS 3 - testi, članki, zapisi

[altair123]

Citroën je bil Hrvaškem ekskluzivni pokrovitelj.

Èe so te slike s hrvaške, najprej sem opazil napis Tuborg, šele na to tiste avtomobilčke.

[garac]

altair, tudi meni se je zdelo čudno, pa celo francozi so sami to objavili, so jih pač malo...ima pa en šahovnico na strehi, tako da so najbrž prave slike

[garac]

očitno DS3 nekaterim ni zanimiv

[Gox]

Èlanek o DS3 v italijanski avtoreviji "Tecnica AUTO" 08/2010 ...

Zanimivo, da so DS3-ki, 1.6Hdi 92, na valjih namerili 98 konjev in 254 Nm navora, v primerjavi z deklariranimi 92 konji in 230 Nm navora.

[Gox]

Pa še reklama za DS3 :take_picture: "Never look back"

[hadei]

DS3 je prestižni konkurent

Vir: Žurnal24
14.08.2010

Citroënova pred kratkim lansirana blagovna znamka ljubi tako športnost  kot ekskluzivnost. To pa ima svojo ceno – DS3 je dober, ni pa poceni.
Za prvega iz linije DS-modelov pri Citroënu zahtevajo slaba dva tisočaka  več kot za podobno motoriziranega in opremljenega C3, kar ni malo.  Ampak DS3 je povsem drugačen avto, tako na pogled kot pri vožnji.

Dovolj drugačen od cenejšega brata
DS3 je zvest  hišni oblikovalski filozofiji, čeprav določena pravila postavlja na  novo. Vizualno se sicer v marsičem naslanja na C3, se pa obenem od tega  razlikuje v nekaterih vitalnih detajlih. Prvi je trivratna zasnova, ki  je osnova za bolj športen videz, oblikovalci pa so to dovršili še z  B-stebričkom v barvi karoserije, ki posnema plavut morskega psa. Zaradi  tega je močno predrugačena bočna linija, ki je zaradi konkavnih linij  okoli stekel bolj razgibana, kar pa terja davek pri preglednosti nazaj.  Več je tudi kroma, ki je osredinjen okoli maske in na boku, obdaja pa  tudi držala vzvratnih ogledal in kljuke. Odprtino za zajem zraka obdaja v  črno barvo odet osrednji del, posebnost pa predstavljajo še vertikalne  LED-diode, ki popestrijo videz vozila in ga naredijo bolj prestižnega.  Svoj del k slednjemu doda tudi streha, ki je bila v testnikovem primeru  drugačne barve kot preostali karoserijski deli, kar je del  personifikacije vozila, ki sicer zahteva doplačilo, je pa dobrodošla.
 Med pomankljivosti v uredništvu štejemo pomanjkljivo osvetlitev  potniškega prostora, saj so luči nameščene na sredini notranjosti, DS3  pa kljub osvetlitvi predela nog ne premore bralnih lučk. Poleg tega je  impulzno zapiranje zgolj voznikove šipe, medtem ko stekel v drugi vrsti  ni mogoče odpirati niti bočno. Grajo si zaslužita še prednja sedeža, ki  pri pomikanju naprej ne obstaneta na mestu.

Motor odličen, volanski obroč manj
Pod motornim  pokrovom se je vrtel 1,6-litrski turbak, znan iz drugih hišnih modelov,  ki je plod sodelovanja med PSA in BMW. Ta zdaj zmore 115 kilovatov, kar  je glede na 1.165 kilogramov suhe teže več kot dovolj. Zaradi  turbotehnologije motor vleče že pri zelo nizkih vrtljajih, kjer je tudi  prijetno tih in krotek, na konkreten pritisk na stopalko za plin pa se  odzove z basovskim rohnenjem iz športnega izpušnega sistema. Pospeški in  zmogljivosti so več kot solidni, nalogo dobro opravljajo tudi zavore in  menjalnik. Slabše se odreže le volanski oboroč, ki je še vedno preveč  okrepljen in daje premalo informacij o dogajanju pod kolesi. Glede  voznih lastnosti je tako, da ima DS3 veliko trše vzmetenje kot C3, je pa  res, da je zaradi tega na trenutke preveč trd, obenem pa v ovinkih ne  drži tako dobro smeri, kot pričakuješ. Nos namreč rad uide iz začrtane  smeri, ESC pa to hipoma hiti popravljat, kar zmanjšuje vozne užitke.  Večino s tem povezanih težav bi rešila zapora diferenciala, ki pa bi  avto dodatno podražila. Poraba se je na testu gibala med osmimi in devetimi litri. Je pa tudi res, da ni šlo niti veliko višje niti nižje od tega.

ESC serijski, usnje ne
Enak  motiv kot na zunanjosti se ponovi tudi znotraj, saj se ta v marsičem  naslanja na videz notranjosti C3, le-to pa nadgradi z mnogimi zanimivimi  detajli. Mednje štejemo prisekan volanski obroč z novim logotipom S na  osrednjem delu, osrednji del armaturne plošče je odet v všečno klavirsko  črnino, ki pa je zelo občutljiva na odtise prstov in prah, prednja  sedeža pa sta veliko bolje profilirana in v testnikovem primeru odeta v  voljno usnje. Ti pa si zaslužijo tudi grajo, saj prestižni material (še  vedno) obdaja le izpostavljene dele, medtem ko so na strani in spredaj  odeti v tkanino. Nekoliko moteča je tudi postavitev stikala za ogrevanje  sedežev, ki zahteva odvračilo pogleda s ceste, obenem pa voznik nima  informacije (prek stikala med merilniki), ali je gretje vključeno ali  ne.



Tudi glede ostale opreme ne boste pogrešali (skoraj) ničesar, saj so  serijski ESC, avtomatska klima, zmogljivejši avdiosistem, parkirna  pomagala, 17-palčna platišča in še kaj bi se našlo. Doplačali boste le  za usnje, ki ga cenijo na 1.200 evrov.
 DS3 ni poceni avto, vendar to niti ne želi biti. Za višjo ceno želi  pričarati predvsem tisto nekonfekcijskost, ki v tem  razredu velikokrat  manjka. In to po našem mnenju počne zelo uspešno. Je pa tudi res, da bo s  ceno 18.300 evrov na naših cestah relativno redek.

Podatki o vozilu: (Citroën DS3 1,6 THP sport chic)
Motor: 1.598cm3
Vrsta: štirivaljni vrstni bencinski
Moč: 115 kW (156 KM)/pri 6.000 vrtljajih na minuto
Navor: 240 Nm/ med 1.400 in 4.000 vrtljaji na minuto
Poraba: 9,4 litra/100 km, 149 gramov CO2
Zmogljivosti: 214 km/h, 7,3 sekunde od 0-100 km/h
Mere (DxŠxV) (v mm):4.x1.782x1.395, medosna razdalja 2.760, prtljažnik (v litrih): 440
Cena: 18.300/19.960 EUR

[aygo]

Citroen DS3 THP 150 Sport Chic
Majhen in drugačen

Oblika DS3  ni po naključju vsaj iz silhuete malo podobna BMW-jevemu Miniju. Mini je tudi največji konkurent Citroenovega malčka, v skupini pa srečamo tudi Alfo MiTo in po novem Audija A1. Ampak DS3 je poseben, tako zaradi precej drznega dizajna, čeprav prepletenega s strogim okvirjem silhuete, ki se kaže ob kamufliranem B-stebričku in škrgo z dnevnimi LED lučmi na sprednjem blatniku. Tudi streha v drugačni barvi in še nekaj podrobnosti dajejo avtu nezmotljivo drugačen pečat, tudi v notranjosti, kjer najbolj pade v oči sredina armaturke v barvi avtomobila. V sijočo plastiko so vtisnjeni merilniki in ventilacijske reže, na volanu in okoli menjalnika pa je dosti aluminija. Edina reč, nad katero lahko malo zavihamo nos, je zaslonček in obvolanske ročice, ki bi lahko že imele status Citroenove kulturne dediščine. Pri povsem na novo zasnovanem avtomobilu, ali celo liniji, se generični elementi pač ne znajdejo, niti ne poskrbijo za dober občutek. Sedenje za volanom sicer ni vrhunsko, preveč visoko, vendar se da z nekaj prilagajanja doseči optimalno pozicijo. Da je DS3 predvsem dvosed, kaže zadnja klop, s poudarkom na »klop«, ki je praktično preveč ravna, da bi ponujala dovolj udobja, zaradi usnjenega oblazinjenja pa bo skoraj vsaka večja reč ob zaviranju odletela naprej.

Pod motornim pokrovom je skupni bavarsko-PSA-jevski 1,6-litrski motor, ki s pomočjo turba proizvede 115 kW (156 KM) in vleče že iz najnižjih vrtljajev. Skratka, dodelan tehnično v vseh pogledih ima lep zvok, tudi ob priganjanju ne pije veliko več kot 8 litrov, predvsem pa je dovolj močan za skoraj dirkaške užitke in z dovolj dinamike, da lahko lenarimo tudi na menjalniku. Mogoče bi glede na karakteristike motorja želeli nekoliko trše podvozje, saj smo v testnem DS3 potrebovali nekaj prilagajanja, da tako suvereno DS3 spet ne leži na cesti in od voznika zahteva nekaj dela, je pa ob sorazmerni mehkobi toliko bolj udoben ob običajni vožnji na daljše relacije. Še najšibkejša točka je menjalnik, ki je spet za odtenek preveč Citroenovski ali mehak, a kot rečeno, s tem motorjem in udobjem je DS3 zmagovalec, še posebej ob pogledu na ceno, ki tudi z dodatno opremo ne doseže 20 tisočakov.

vir:http://www.avtomanija.com/default.asp?rb=1&id=985

[drugmirko]

evo, nalimam še tukej, na tale forum... me spet nekej "kuri" tale Citroenov wannabe:funny34d:

malo surfam nokoli, ker čisto potiho, ter navkljub krizi, pomanjkanju denarja in dejstvu, da (sem ga parkrat srečal "head on" na cesti) mi s tistimi ledastimi škrgami po sprednjih vogalih zgleda istočasno grozno in kretensko tumplasto, še zmeraj nekak upam, da ga bom enkrat v bodoče zapeljal v svojo garažo....

meni se je sama stvarčica na probni vožnji JAKO dopadla (za volanom DS-a je tudi edino mesto na kugli zemaljski, s katere se ne vidi tistih ledic)... ne na prvi mah, ko sem ga prvič videl in prešlatal v živo. šele na drugi, ko sem ga zapeljal naokrog! ker pa jaz nisem nek etalon vsake malo posurfam in poiščem kak test kompetentnejših od mene! in tako sem naletel na dva zanimiva testa DS3-ke, oba izpod peres zame ZELO verodostojnih in merodajnih "virov" avtomobilitičnega sveta... prvi je evo magazine, ki je primerjalno testiral Clio 200 cup, Mini Cooper S, DS3 THP 150 in Fiat 500 Abarth esseesse...

tukej mate link na cel test szi slikicami:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/256822/citroen_ds3_v_renaultsport_clio_200_v_mini_cooper_s_v_abarth_500.html

jaz bom pa prilimal samo eno slikico in del teksta, kjer se govori o vožnji DS-a:

The Clio's biggest rival up until now has always been the Cooper S, and that's where I head now. You sit wonderfully low down in the Mini, with your legs stretching out more horizontally than in the other cars and the steering wheel pretty much wherever you want it thanks to a fantastic range of adjustment. The only blot is that the sports seats should locate and hold you better and you can end up clinging to the wheel tighter as a result.
John Hayman has leapt into the DS3 and so I follow him out of the car park. To be honest I'd rather hoped to get in front of him. The Mini is quicker to 60mph and feels like it ought to romp away from the CitroΫn down a B-road.
As soon as you pull away it feels involving – the steering is positive, the 172bhp engine feels like it's bubbling over with more energy than the front wheels really need, and there's a healthy positivity to the controls that makes you feel like the Mini wants to be driven. The Sport button, as ever, is a mixed blessing, as the steering feels better with it switched off, the engine better with it switched on.

By the first corner, though, it's obvious that following the CitroΫn will be no easy task. The Mini is unsettled almost straight away. Bumps see it fidgeting and giving lumpy feedback through the steering, the traction control is constantly flickering until I turn it off, and the back end is all too happy to swing round slightly unnervingly. It's exciting but slightly more so than it should be and it's a relief to reach the smoother section of road further up, where the S becomes more consistent and enjoyable.

After ten minutes, the DS pulls into a lay-by to turn round (impressive turning circle) so I signal to John that I want to swap cars. Hayman looks utterly relaxed and unflustered as he hops out, despite not having had a Marlboro for at least five minutes. When I enquire how hard he was trying he says, 'Not very. I didn't even trigger the traction control.'

As I get into the DS3 I discover he's even had the radio on. And the interior smells nice. I let him lead again in the Mini. Although they share a common engine, the turbocharged 1.6 isn't as characterful in its detuned CitroΫn form and you wring it out a little more concertedly at the top end. However, there's more than enough low-down torque to trigger axle-tramp from the soft, long-travel front end, and the DS3 doesn't seem to lose any appreciable ground as we accelerate away down the first straight. The gearshift is excellent, with a nice natural feel around the gate and none of the floppiness we've come to expect from CitroΫns.

In the corners it's all very relaxed, almost a little too relaxed to be a truly involving drive, with the front end seeming a little aloof, but there's absolutely no problem sitting behind the Mini and, indeed, it never even occurs to me to turn the ESP off. The steering doesn't give a lot of resistance and confidence on turn-in, but as soon as the suspension is loaded up you get light and subtle feedback relaying a very clear picture of what the front tyres are doing. It's hugely impressive.

drugi je pa seveda the "one and only" Clarksonov Jeremy! ta je na svoj običajno zajebantski, ironičen in duhovit način za The Sunday Times opisal svojo testno vožnjo rumenega DS3 THP150... tu ga mate v celoti! vreden branja, ne samo zaradi DS-a :

My review this morning is powered with hindsight. You see, when I first drove the new Volkswagen Beetle, I thought it was a very clever idea: to clothe a Golf in a modern interpretation of the old Beetle. And garnish the finished product with a vase.

I still think the vase was a good idea. I like the idea of having a small bunch of forget-me-nots in the car. It goes well with my Will Young CDs. But I'm afraid that the idea of raping the past to feed the future will inevitably lead us all into a cul-de-sac. No, really. If all we ever do is reinvent what's gone before, progress will end.

See the Jaguar S-type for details ...

And quite apart from the aesthetic debate, I wonder, really, if it was a good idea to bring back a car as nasty as the Beetle. That it sold in such vast numbers — 21m were made — is not testament to its design brilliance so much as to the average customer's stupidity. The engine was in the wrong place, the rear suspension was a recipe for disaster, air is not as good a cooling agent as water and the shape is all wrong. Pretty much what you'd expect, really, from a car designed in part by Hitler.

I realise, of course, that the new Beetle has been plagued with none of the original's design flaws. Its engine is water-cooled and in the front, the suspension is normal and it wasn't designed by a Nazi. But it is built by Mexicans. And I'm sorry but they can't even make a plate of mince properly so what possible chance do they have with a wiring loom?

And, puh-lease, let's not get sidetracked by Herbie, shall we. Herbie was a menace. A car with a mind of its own. No one wants that. Or we'd all have Alfas.

Of course, we have the Mini and the Fiat 500 as rivals to the Beetle. I like both of them very much. But what will their replacements look like? Modern interpretations of, er, what exactly?

Designing a car to look like something else from the pages of history is not sensible. It would have been like designing a CD player to look like a turntable. Why would you do that?

And that brings us nicely to Citroën's new DS3. Does it look anything like the original DS? No. Are there any hints of the 2CV? Absolutely not, and we can all thank our lucky stars for that. Wisely, Citroën decided to look to the future and in doing so it has created motoring's equivalent of the iPod.

And what makes the achievement so notable is that the DS3 — there was no DS2, by the way — is closely based on the rather dreary C3. I'm not just talking about the bits you can't see, either. The windscreen, the front wings and the bonnet are all shared, too. I've looked hard and you absolutely can't tell.

Partly, this is because of the wildly kinking B pillar. Partly, it's because the roof is a different colour and appears to be floating on a sea of glass. And partly it's because the car I tried was egg yellow. The combination of all this visual stimulation means this car is like a Mexican's chilli-infused lunch. Sweating and with crossed eyes, you don't notice that you are eating a rat's bladder.

It's much the same story with the way the DS3 drives. The sensible, rational part of your mind tells you that it must be like the standard C3. It's the same car. So it should feel like you are driving around in Eric Pickles. And, sure, the gearbox is a bit gratey, and you do tend to pitter-patter over crappy road surfaces in a most un-Citroën-like fashion. But, thanks to a few tiny tweaks to the steering and suspension, the DS3 feels like a Mini. It feels brilliant.

The only other car I've ever wanted this badly before I drove it was the Aston Martin DB9. And that's before Citroën brings out a 193-horsepower DS3 "racing" version later in the year. I want that more than I don't want lung cancer.

If I could single out one thing on the car I drove, I'd go for the engine. It's the same 1.6 you find in various Minis and Peugeots but it seems to work best of all in the DS3. It revs like a Magimix chewing on nothing but consommé and, thanks to its 150bhp, 0-62mph is dealt with in just 7.3 seconds.

This morning the sun was shining and, for the first time in ages, I went for a drive. Remember those? When the purpose of your journey was the journey itself? It was worth it.

There was no torque steer, and there wasn't so much power that I went into every corner with puckered buttocks. Everything just felt perfectly in tune with everything else. Except for the satellite navigation system. I don't know what happened but I pressed a button, it went off the screen and because I didn't have my glasses I couldn't get it back again. No matter. Because I was lost, I was able to do more driving.

And as I did more driving, I noticed something else. It felt very well screwed together. Let me just say that again. This is a Citroën and it feels extremely well screwed together. No one has ever said those words before. Perhaps it isn't very well screwed together but it feels that way because it's so quiet. Unlike a Fiat 500, this is a car in which you could do long distances, no problem at all. And unlike a Mini, it has space — just about — in the back for teenagers.

I even liked the dashboard. It's completely mad and at a glance you can't work out what anything does or what the dials are saying — you could very easily run out of fuel, for instance. But compared with the dreary, plasticky, home-brand, low-rent rubbish you find in most hatchbacks these days, it comes as a welcome and joyous change.

But here's the thing. The car you buy needn't be anything like the car I drove because the range of aesthetic options beggars belief.

To understand what I'm on about, you should visit Citroën's website and spend some time playing around with its car configurator. You choose the engine — you can even have a diesel that does more than 70mpg — and then you can spend hours selecting bits of trim and colour combinations.

You can choose what colour roof you'd like and whether you want it finished in a zebra-skin pattern. You can select a carbon-fibre-look dash or one in white. Same goes for the gearlever, and even the air freshener. How funky would sir like the wheels? Slightly or very?

Quite how the production line is geared up to cope with such a massive range of options, I have no idea. But then I don't care. Will Citroën lose money as it tries to accommodate everyone's wishes? I have no shares in the company so I'm not bothered. All I know is that when you've finished designing your car, and it's there on the screen with its chromed door mirrors and its zebra roof and its yellow seats, you just think: "I don't care how much that costs; I must have it. I must."

Ah, yes, cost. It's tricky, of course, because of those options. Prices start at £11,700 and rise to £15,900 for the car I was driving. But "start" is the operative word here. By the time you've finished making merry on the internet, you'll probably add £1,200 to the base cost. That would make the DS3 more expensive than a Mini. And that's fair enough because this is the best of the small cars by a very, very long way.

THE CLARKSOMETER

Clarkson's verdict
Motoring's equivalent of the iPod

[garac]

če delajo premerjavo nemci? A1 vs DS3, tdi proti hdi...
A se to sploh lahko vprašamo?

celo neudobne sedeže ima ds3 sem nekje vmes prebral, a tisti nemški v audiju pa so udobni? Jih je kdo od vas že preskusil?

[Gox]

Gledam prerez A1-ke, a tam zadnji potnik ima glavo že zunaj?  Nekam nizka streha je zadaj ...

[ModelJT]

@garac Ko sem jaz sedel v A6 so bli zici kr dost udobni. Sam, ko se pa peleš je pa pomoje druga pesem. Ist oje blo pr BMW mehki zici, trdo podvozje.

@Gox ja zgleda, da ma glavo čez streho sam ker je bela se ne vid dobr. Jo ma pa glih lepo naštimano, da pr kšnih hudih grbinah fajn odtis pustiš hehe

[garac]

Èasi se spreminjajo, celo novinar M.G. sedaj najde kako pohvalno za citroen in celo vozi se vsakodnevno s svojim xp, kdo bi si mislil. Tole je zapisal o DS3

[Igorek]

No onem prospektu pri primerjavi z Audijom,
sem se najbolj nasmejal pri slikah prtljažnika.
Velikost prtljažnika malo večja pri DS3,
pri audiju nebene omembe velikosti pod sliko le izgled opevajo.
potem pa tele napiše pod sliko prtljažnika DS3 je v teoriji pa še dosti v prtljažnik,
sam se v praksi izkaže, da ni dober za dosti naložiti.
Èe mene vprašaš je slika čisto ista sam da gredo pri audiji luči z prtljažnikom gor.

Lp Igor

[Zeko124]

Bom kar sem dal... tole sem slikal na cesti, v Višnjegorski klanec in sicer ko je ravno prišla ven, žal jaz to "valjam" po računalniku najmanj pol leta, šele potem objavim... :AngelPray:

[aygo]

Od kdaj pa je Višnjegorski klanec tako strm?